Archive for July, 2009
Thursday, July 30th, 2009
QUESTION: Hello,
My 15 yr. granddaughter is approx. 60-62″ tall. What length(s) should the
shaft(s) be on her various clubs? Thanks for considering this question. ZIA
ANSWER: Hi,
If you were hoping for that magic length answer, it doesn’t exist on this site.
The length of a golf club should always be based on the build, strength, and swing of a golfer. Eventhough there are quite a few women on the LPGA, Futures Tour and among the college ranks in the 5′0″ to 5′2″ range, (who many play with traditional length clubs), most likely your grandaughter has not achieved her full adult size and strength, and thus, might not play with the same weight and length as these women. My general guess is that she might be in the -1/2″ range, with a lighter shaft, and a flatter lie angle.
There is no accurate formula for determining the optimum length for a given golfer, but I will give you some good ideas to help with your question.
The most important thing to remember in fitting- is that the golf ball and club do not kow the age, gender, hair color, etc of a given golfer. The golf club only knows how efficiently, how powerfully, and how consistent it is being swung.
The next thing to realize is that there is no accurate mathematical formula based on a golfers gender or height - (eventhough many golf shops and brochures still promote these myths).
My best recommendation is to take your grandaughter out to a golf range where they have a fitting cart of various brands, lengths, lies, and shaft weights. Between your eye of what looks like a good address posture, and a well balanced golf swing, and her feedback as to what feels good and natural and comfortable, you will be able to determine her length needs better than I could ever over the internet, or better than any web formula or manufacturer’s brochure or some of these crazy wrist to floor measurements.
I would start with a traditional length (typically this means a standard #6 iron length of 37.25″) and then try 1/2″ shorter than standard, and even 1″ shorter than standard. If she hits several shot with each length, her body will show what works for her.
Another component of the length question is the lie angle specification. it is very difficult to even discuss optimal length without considering the lie specification. The proper lie angle aids the golfer in swinging the club in harmony and balance, and assures the golfer will find their best path at impact. For more information on testing for lie and its relationship to club length, I urge you to connect with a quality fitter.
This length discussion also will lead to the proper weight and flex of a given shaft. The weight of a shaft will also affect the rhythm, balance and efficiency of the golf swing.
If you do not know of a fitter in your area, one place to start is to inquire with one of our Authorized Installation Centers as to their services at www.shaftology.com.
Regards, Mark
Posted in Shaft Fitting |
Monday, July 27th, 2009
QUESTION: Hi,
I have a Mizuno MP-57 set with NS PRO 950GH (regular) shaft,
and I’m planing to get a Mizuno MP T 51 wedge, but my golf
supplier only has True Temper (wedge shaft for the MP T as a
standard shaft ) but they offer to customize it for me. I’m
afraid if they customize the wedge, it may lose its balance.
What is the proper set up of irons to wedges? Should the
shaft of my irons be the same with my wedges? If the
NS PRO 950GH is 95grams, what is the max difference in weight
of the irons to wedges? NS PRO 950GH is 95 grams, while the
Dynamic Gold is 125. Is this too big of a difference?
Thanks, Alvin
ANSWER: Hi Alvin,
Most golfers that like the 950 shaft model in their irons,
find they typically play best with a slightly heavier
shaft in their wedges. 125 grams is usually too much of a
difference in feel and performance. I recommend that you use
either our NS PRO 1050GH shaft, or our new WV105 shaft.
You might have to contact one of our Authorized Installation
Centers for help with this project.
FOr more information, click on the WEDGE SHAFTS category
located on the right side of this page for similar questions
on this subject. Regards, Mark
Posted in Wedge Shafts |
Monday, July 27th, 2009
QUESTION: Hi,
I would like to switch from my Callaway X Tour irons to the regular X-22s. The problem is that I hit my 6 iron on a reliable launch monitor 3.5 to 4 degrees lanunch angle higher, and approximately 2500 rpm ball spin more than the X-22 stock shaft. I would like to increase my trajectory and ball spin with
the X-22 through the shaft that I order. Any suggestions? Parker
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ANSWER: Hi Parker,
I hesitate to answer these type questions because often you wind up chasing one variable, (trajectory), at the expense of so many other variables, (distance, control, contact). Also, eventhough I use launch monitors and head delivery measurement systems everyday, they should only be used as comparison tools, versus pure fitting tools.
Having said all of the above, the real trouble is that golfers have the mistaken idea that heads and shafts perform the same for every golfer, yet the reality is that every golfer’s body and swing interact differently with each head and shaft combination, which is why the only definitive method of shaft selection is live testing.
If we go back to the original question that you are looking for more trajectory, I would look at different shaft models that are characterized as having a specific flight profile.
In the Nippon Shaft catalog, based on actual testing, across a wide range of golfers I would characterize these shafts models and their flight profiles as follows:
NS PRO 850GH, 950GH, 1050GH = mid to high flight
NS PRO 1150GH, Superpeening ORANGE = mid flight
NS PRO Superpeening BLUE = mid to low flight
Another good option is to contact some of our Authorized Installation Centers for help with your project. Regards, Mark
Posted in Shaft Fitting, Shaft Installation |
Monday, July 27th, 2009
QUESTION: Hi Nippon!
I need your help.
I have a set of Nickent 4DX PRO irons with Nippon 1050GH Stiff shafts installed on them. They feel amazing, and I’m very happy with my shafts!!
A friend of mine bought the same Nickent 4DX PRO irons but with the stock Nippon 1180GH Stiff shafts. He tried them and saw that the ball flight with his 3 and 4 irons were considerably lower than mine’s.
Can you write me a few lines comparing the 1050GH and the 1180GH Nippon shafts?
Is it true that the 1180GH’s quality is lower than the others because it’s a Nickent stock shaft, and so this could be the explanation of the lower ball flight?
Or maybe his swing is not fast enough to activate the long iron’s shafts?
We would like to know what’s your thought on the 1180GH. He’s already willing to change to a set of Project X because of this.
Thanks Nippon, I’m very happy with my set.
Regards, Facundo
ANSWER: Hi Facundo,
Different shafts will certainly perform different. In the case of your two Nickent sets- you absolutely have different sets. The 1050GH is more of a mid to high flight profile versus the 1180 stock shaft, which is most likely why your friend saw the difference in trajectory. The quality of the two shaft models are the same since both are made from our premium base materials and go through the same high end heat treatment processes.
Most golfers believe that the brand name is somehow more important than the actual performance specification. The reality is that the both the shaft brand and the shaft architecture are crucial to your performance.
If your friend desires to have the same performance and ball flight as your set, then he must have his set installed to the same shaft model, flex, raw length, finished length, lie, swingweight, insertion depth, etc. If any specification is different, he will encounter different performance.
Regards, Mark
Posted in Shaft Fitting, Shaft Installation, OEM Shaft Models, NS PRO Models |
Friday, July 24th, 2009
QUESTION: Hi,
I currently use DG X-100 and have +1.5 inches on my irons - I hit them well; the
problem is +1.5 inches means I can swing easier and the ball-strking is
excellent but unlike at 1/2 inch the irons can be a little more consistent -
would I get any benefit out of using a lighter shaft that is still X-Stiff?
If so what are your recommendatons?
Thanks, Ryan
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ANSWER: Hi Ryan,
I am assuming that what you are saying is that you like the length of the +1.5″ setup, but that they are heavy to swing. Is this right?
Using a heavier shaft model at +1.5″ can make any set play quite HEAVY.
The answer to your question is - Yes, I would keep the longer length and find a shaft model that is lighter to help the overall feel and balance.
The hard part to determine is the selection of the shaft model- this depends on the feel and the flight based on your body, swing and game. I suggest that you discuss these issues with a clubfitter or contact a knowledgeable installation center and experiment with having a lighter shaft installed into your current set.
Flight is a big consideration when discussing lighter shafts. Longer lengths typically are used by taller golfers, who have steeper angles of attack- which creates spin and thus a very healthy trajectory. Finding a lighter shaft, that will not make the ball fly higher, is often a challenge.
One other option is to have a new set built with lighter heads, to keep the weight down. Mizuno is one company that offers lighter head models for longer length needs.
Please write back if I am not on track with the intent of your question.
Regards, Mark
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Posted in Shaft Fitting |
Friday, July 24th, 2009
QUESTION: Hi Mark,
Should your hybrids be the same shaft weight as your irons. Example, If I hit
the NS PRO 850, should my hybrids that I use for a 3 and 4 iron also be a 85
gram weight in the graphite shaft? Thanks, Barry
ANSWER: Barry,
If you are contemplating using the same shaft weight in your hybrid clubs, as in your iron clubs, why not use the same NS PRO 850GH in both your irons and hybrids? We offer the NS PRO 850GH in raw lengths up to 39.5″, which is enough to support most hybrid designs.
The best answer to your question is- use the shaft weight/model that works best. For most people, their iron shaft model will perform great in their hybrids. For some golfers, they find that a lighter shaft model, with a higher flight profile works best.
My rule of thumb is- for maximum consistency, choose the same shaft for your hybrid clubs as you have in your irons. If you are looking for more power or more height in your hybrid clubs, you may be a candidate for shafts lighter than your irons.
Regards, Mark
Posted in Shaft Fitting, Shaft Installation |
Tuesday, July 21st, 2009
QUESTION: Hello,
I am looking at the Cobra FP irons w/ Pro 1030H shafts for
my son who is 13 (5′5″). My question(s)are- what is the
approximate weight of the shaft in regular flex?
And second, is this too much shaft for him? Thanks, Trout
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ANSWER: Hi Trout,
This answer, like most in this Q&A, is- “it depends”.
The 1030 shaft model, in the Cobra series, is in the 100-105
gram range, which is not that heavy. It falls in the mid to
light range. If your son likes lighter shaft models, than it
should be a reasonable choice. If he likes heavier models,
than this set might result in slower, inconsistent contact.
The best way to tell is to at least hit various weight
models and flexes and compare how well he makes contact, and
how his swing looks and feels. If he labors with his swing and
seems at a loss for power and speed, then the shaft is too
heavy and/or stiff. If he swings erratic and out of control,
and has a hard time making consistent contact, then most
likely the shaft is too light and/or flexy. And if he swings
within balance and rhythm and makes good contact, then the
shaft is a good fit. Hope these ideas help. Regards, Mark
Posted in Shaft Fitting, OEM Shaft Models |
Tuesday, July 21st, 2009
QUESTION: Hi Mark,
I currently play Bridgestone J-36 combo irons +1/2″ 6.0
Project X shafts. I carry my 7 iron 155 yds. A friend of
mine, who is a 6 hdcp, thinks my shafts are too stiff.
I play to a 10 hdcp and do not ever miss right with my irons,
but do sometimes hit a pull. Do you think I am playing a
shaft that is too stiff? Aidan
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ANSWER: Hi Aidan,
After several thousand fitting sessions, I have learned that
golfers who play with shafts that are too stiff, have one
thing in common. They do not consistently hit the ball at
the target. Typically, golfers with too stiff of a shaft
flex find that they fight a battle of the lefts and rights,
and when they do hit it at the target, it’s just not something
that is easy, natural and efficient. Golfers with the wrong
flex are continuously searching for the shaft to be in the
proper position and to feel a certain way, but if the flex is
too stiff, it will never feel quite right, regardless of the
variety of swings attempted to find that good feel.
Regarding the question if your shafts are too stiff-
it certainly is not based upon a swing speed formula. It
might be based on your friend’s assessment, but only if
your friend is capable of distinguishing that you are
working way too hard to swing your existing set.
My best recommendation is to hit some similar shaft
models that are of softer flex ratings and note your
accuracy, consistentcy, and how natural and comfortable
your swing is with the more flexible shafts.
Also, you may consider the many variables of a golf club,
including, shaft weight, swingweight, length, lie, sole,
head design, etc. All of these specifications can be
overriding factors concerning your ability to perform in
a natural, efficient manner, versus a constant adjusting,
compensating manner.
Posted in Shaft Fitting, Golfer Interaction |
Tuesday, July 21st, 2009
QUESTION: Hi Mark,
I am currently playing with Cobra irons with Nippon 900XH
shafts(S). I am considering a set of Taylor Made Tour
Preferred irons with the 950GH(S). Can you tell me the
differences in the specifications
of these shafts? The 900XH stiff fits me pretty well
and I would like to get as close to it in weight and
stiffness as possible.The 900XH seems to have a lower kick
point and I am wondering if that is why it feels softer?
Thanks, Pete
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ANSWER: Hi Pete,
Thanks for your note. The 900XH model, which is manufactured
for the Cobra Company is in the same ultralite family as the
NS PRO 950GH and 850GH, in the 90 to 95 gram weight range.
Also, all three models have a mid to high flight profile.
Both the 950 and 850 models will play similar to the 900XH,
with the 850 being the closest performer- on paper.
The most important factor to remember with regards to shaft
selection is that eventhough these 3 models have similar
performance characteristics, they are also 3 distinct models
and will feel and play in a unique manner. The only definitive
method to determine the ideal shaft model and flex is through
live testing. Regards, Mark
Posted in Shaft Fitting, NS PRO Models |
Tuesday, July 14th, 2009
QUESTION: Hey,
I’m 46 years old, 160 lbs on a good day, 5′ 8″ with spikes on, wife hates me, 10 hdcp,
carry a 5 iron about 165 to 170, ball speed about 110. Can’t decide if I should
still play steel or graphite in the irons. Regular flex in graphite seems out of
control, Regular flex in steel seems a little heavy for me, thinking about Nippon somewhere in the middle. Maybe need to take up tennis instead? Any thoughts would be appreaciated. Thanks, Dan
ANSWER: Hi Dan,
As you sail through your late 40’s- golf is much easier on the joints than tennis. I recommend that you find a shaft model in the 95 gram range and continue with golf. Stay with the same flex that you have had success with in the past. Our NS PRO 950 model is often a perfect choice between a heavy steel model and a lightweight graphite model.
Not sure what to recommend regarding your wife- I suggest a Sunday Champagne Brunch outing. You will get bonus points if you don’t wear your spikes.
Regards, Mark
Posted in Shaft Fitting, NS PRO Models |
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